Why Do Ecuadorians Play Their Music So Deafeningly Loud?

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Below was a question posted on an Ecuador Focused Facebook Site. If you wish to be a “fly on the wall” to the many expats who are living in Ecuador, this conversation is a great opportunity to hear their thoughts on living in Ecuador:

I am not trying to start a war or ruffle feathers, but I honest to goodness want to know: Why do Ecuadorians play their music at deafening levels? There is no regard for neighbors or even the people attending. The party last night started at 8:30 and blasted till 6 this morning. Not all the pillows and ear plugs in town could drown it out. 

(Please Note: I have taken out the names to protect the privacy of the individuals who replied:)

EXPAT RESPONSES

*** Welcome to Ecuador..

*** One thing a loud music culture, the other is insulation is not needed on southamerican homes, therefore with the same party in the states there wont be as much loudness scaping to the neighbour

*** My husband and I are country people. We need quiet. Therefore, we cannot live in towns. We live out in a finca area. About once every six months they have a big party. Fortunately it is far away and we have ways of muting the sound.

*** Some people love city life and the noise that comes with it. We don’t. So we found we will never do well in town.

*** Fyi..talk with the police. There are ordanence in ecuador. There was in galapagos and in guayaquil. I sent a letter to a city hall office. The neighboor was horrible.. dogs too. They have the same laws in ecuador. It is a $200 fine if you dont comply to the complaints.

*** They enjoy noise and a party atmosphere. So do many young people world wide. People and cultures have different preferences.

***Don’t tolerate this. First time, they get a polite request. Second time, they get a less-happy request. Third time, they got a policemen brought to their door. No policemen around? Bang on their door at 7am… or just start hootin’ and hollerin’ like you’re part of the party.

***You want to be in their country you should be more tolerant. You are the guest.

*** Isn’t life too short for BS like this??????

*** That how it is in Vilcabamba downtown. Lots of parties on weekends!

***  This is a Latin thing and found in all Latin based countries even the Philippines. I think they subscribe to the idea that MORE and BIGGER is better grin emoticon

*** Partying, drinking, cockfights, and loud music.. I have found thiem in every Latin country I have visited LOL

*** I think they enjoy being with friends and family and this is one way they celebrate it. I love to see them happy and far be it for me to try to put a stop to it!

***  In my example, the guy was sitting just inside his front door, all alone, with his giant speaker just outside the front door. At 630am.

*** I try to make everyone leave by breakfast.

*** The parties are so interactive, dancing, eating, men telling ‘cachos’, dancing some more….drinking and hungry again.

*** So, who cares about all the many neighbors trying to sleep? Who cares about them? Some may say that is selfish. It is possible to have fun without that crazy high noise level.

*** I tell my neighbors and invite them and I am cognizant of the noise level. I care, I cannot answer for others. I am sorry that you jumped into conclusions that I was okay with being disruptive with the noise….rather, I was explaining as to why the parties last so long.

We have had the exact same problem. I just went to a wedding of friends and there two competing parties with loudspeakers full blast. I finally got it after 5 years. They really enjoy it so now I know I have to leave every major holiday or suffer the consequences.

*** sounds like Thailand too.

*** Es es muy malo ,pero cuando eso suceda llamar a la policía y ellos tendrá que resolverlo las fiestas están permitidas máximo asta las 3:00 de la madrugada no más

*** Wait until one of your neighbors decide to have a Karaoke party. Is even worst they would sing songs out of tune for hours.

*** Shoot me, please. I would go crazy.

*** Had this start blasting one night at 300 am … Sad drunk love songs … Was kinda funny … Luckily I went right back to sleep … The crazy disco lights were actually worse than the music coming thru the window … Musta been laser lights … Doesn’t happen often so I can live with it as luckily I am retired and have no pressing engagements to worry about … Ever smile emoticon

*** Summers here in Rosarito, Mexico, exactamente. And year round there are many restaurants I don’t frequent because I can’t have a conversation of any sort due to the shear volume of the music, forget the noise from the patrons. Think it’s those Latin genes.

*** Isn’t it wonderful that the problem is music? At least you aren’t in the USA where people are being beaten up for the color of their skin.

*** Is it really necessary to interject USA racial issues into a discussion about loud music? Wanna talk about the bad water in Flint as long as you have totally changed the subject from loud music in Ecuador? I lived in St Louis, is there police brutality in America, yes. But more than 50% of the citizens of St Louis are black, and 99.9% can walk down the streets without police brutality.

*** And at least it’s not gun shots … I’ll take party over violence noise every day !!! And night !! We are so uptight in the north Americas we really have lost the ability to live and let live and I hope we don’t ruin Ecuador with our Norms and appreciate and assimilate into the culture or leave to seek more familiar surroundings

*** Sorry to hear that, that doesn’t happened ever here where i live , and this is Ecuador too.. ooops… lol …. have you tried and talk to the police if that happens too often ? .. if it is once a year.. well…

*** I think their hearing is so damaged from previous parties that they need to turn it up! Think about it! These people have been taking their INFANTS to these noisy parties from birth! There has to be some repercussions, hearing damage!!!

*** Because it’s a different culture…

*** Occasionally there are the loud all night parties with the same ol reggie tone booming out. There is some great latin dance music, but seldom hear that, just the same ol crap. What I don’t understand, I have driven down to where the parties are at 4AM or so and NO ONE is there, but the music is still blasting. Why?

*** They are all dead drunk

*** When this happens in Pto Lopez, we presume that the party givers paid for the DJ and the DJ will always give them their monies worth.

***  Its not “Ecuadorians”. Its some Ecuadorians, not all. And it is quite burdensom. Also Colombians, Peruvians, Brasilians, and other Latinamericans do this, with utter disregard towards their neighbours. Its the culture I guess. And often, not much you can do about it. Unfortunately.

*** I am with you on this issue. I live in a noisy neighborhood and am a light sleeper. Loud music through the night! Ugh! I strongly dislike Tuesday and Thursday evenings from 7:30-8:30 when the Zumba music is played at the highest level possible right outside my window. My Windows shake! I have to make myself not go out and turn down the volume.

*** I mean I love music I listen it to it all day As I don’t have a TV! However I would never inflict it at all times on my neighbours. I don’t mind a bit of music daytime even if a bit loud (can be hard when I work at home) but all day everyday all night etc. it is tiresome. I feel manners go along way. I notice sometimes here can be lacking like when driving say in UK we put our hand up to say thanks etc when someone gives way. Or when my kids or me walk across a road and a car stops To give way i have taught them to raise their hands as a thank you etc etc I haven’t seen anyone return the same courtesy not once. However I accept that lots of people here will say good morning when standing in a crowd waiting and that def doesn’t happen in UK! So it’s yin and yang I suppose with all things. I will persist with my UK style of manners too ingrained and automatic for me maybe it will catch on?!

*** I don’t get comments like these ones. With all due respect, we’re here in Ecuador as foreign guests. No one is forcing us to be specifically here. If there are things we don’t like about Ecuador, we can move.

Not only that, but as others had mentioned it’s a massively huge (and in my opinion inappropriately racist) generalization to say that “Ecuadorians” play their music loudly. My girlfriend’s mother certainly doesn’t, nor does her grandma, her brother, her brother’s wife, her uncles, her aunts, etc., etc., etc….

*** I do not think anyone said everyone!! I certainly did not as I am married into an Ecuadorian family who do not do this. Also I think we are allowed to have our opinions and little moans just because we live here we shouldn’t have to say “Hey everything is great, all ok, and I accept it all whether I like it or not”. This really is simplistic. This thing of saying “well if you don’t like it then leave” that is racist. I hear that all the time to migrants in the UK!

*** I doubt anyone expects a whole culture to change!!! As I said when I can I will move to a quieter area. I think it is perfectly ok to let off steam here in the expats group.

*** I think expecting an entire country’s culture to be changed in order to accommodate people coming here for a low cost of living is quite absurd.

*** Exactly correct. It’s only some, not all.

*** I am with you on this issue. I live in a noisy neighborhood and am a light sleeper. Loud music through the night! Ugh! I strongly dislike Tuesday and Thursday evenings from 7:30-8:30 when the Zumba music is played at the highest level possible right outside my window. My Windows shake! I have to make myself not go out and turn down the volume.

*** I mean I love music I listen it to it all day As I don’t have a TV! However I would never inflict it at all times on my neighbours. I don’t mind a bit of music daytime even if a bit loud (can be hard when I work at home) but all day everyday all night …

*** I don’t get comments like these ones. With all due respect, we’re here in Ecuador as foreign guests. No one is forcing us to be specifically here. If there are things we don’t like about Ecuador, we can move

*** I do not think anyone said everyone!! I certainly did not as I am married into an Ecuadorian family who do not do this. Also I think we are allowed to have our opinions and little moans just because we live here we shouldn’t have to say “Hey everything is cool…

*** My comment was a reply to the person making the post, who did use the term “Ecuadorians” as a generalization. The difference is, migrants in the UK are probably in the UK for much, much different reasons than most of the people making and commenting

*** I doubt anyone expects a whole culture to change!!! As I said when I can I will move to a quieter area. I think it is perfectly ok to let off steam here in the expats group.

*** After a few nights in Cotacachi with the roosters, musical garbage trucks, early morning blaring loudspeakers and the music it was a no brainer that ¨city¨ life was not for me. So we bought a short distance from town.

*** When you say, “Ecuadorians”, you generalize. Not all “Ecuadorians” are created equal. I could say the same thing about people, here in the States, but that would be like putting everyone in a certain category. Signed, an Ecuadorian.

*** Estoy totalmente de acuerdo con usted.

*** Yes I suppose reading the op the poster could of used a better choice of words. I am sure it was not meant in an offensive way. Come on people we all generalize as some point in our lives no one is perfect – look I just did i just said all us Brits are moaners….please UK expats I don’t mean it honest its just a joke!

*** And another generalisation from another Brit……we fell in live with Ecuador and Ecuadorians. Does NOT mean we cannot voice our opinions or little moans. We think the main issue with living in Ecuador is the expats who seem either to be delightful, warm and friendly, or little arses.

*** I reckon I am somewhere in between Frankie, delightful, warm and friendly ass? smile emoticon !

*** it’s OK! I had the gall to complain about a corporate grocery chain, TIA, cause they do not sell kitty litter and rarely sell Diet Coke. OMG did the spears fly! I was told to get the f*ck back to America.

*** Before we bought our land and built our home in Puerto Lopez, an Ecuadorian friend gave us great advice. He said neighbors are everything here…get to know them BEFORE you buy anything. We did. I think we have the best neighbors in town.

*** I agree with most of you..not all Ecuadorian used to do this ..

***I think some of you are bing nit picky about the choice of words, especially referring to Ecuadorians. Maybe it would have been more PC.

What do you think?

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Words To Thrive By for World Travelers: Footprints in Ecuador

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GRATITUDE Day 8: If you see no reason to give thanks, the fault lies in yourself

GRATITUDE

                               GRATITUDE

“Live your life that the fear of death can never enter your heart.

Trouble no one about his religion.

Respect others in their views and demand that they respect yours.

Love your life, perfect your life, beautify all things in your life.

Seek to make your life long and of service to your people.

Prepare a noble death song for the day when you go over the great divide.

Always give a word or sign of salute when meeting or passing a friend, or even a stranger, if in a lonely place.

Show respect to all people, but grovel to none.

When you rise in the morning, give thanks for the light, for your life, for your strength.

Give thanks for your food and for the joy of living.

If you see no reason to give thanks, the fault lies in yourself.”

• Tecumseh, Shawnee •

This is Day 8 of 9 in my GRATITUDE here on Footprints in Ecuador.

In doing this 9 Days of Gratitude experiment, I have noticed that I am more focused on Gratitude than I already normally am.

I think this sentiment by Tecumseh is worth keeping in mind, especially as the stress of the Holiday Season creeps into our daily lives: “If you see no reason to give thanks, the fault lies in yourself.” There is always something we can find to be grateful for, no matter what

And if you are really here not to find anything to be grateful for and really just want me to cut to the chase and tell you something interesting about Ecuador, I invite you to download my new book: Words To Thrive By for World Travelers: Footprints in Ecuador.

I was so thankful to have the opportunity to live in Ecuador for two years. I had all kinds of interesting experiences there that I think are worth sharing with others, especially people who are considering visiting or moving there. I guarantee if you take the time to read it, you will find something to be thankful for! At least I truly hope you will! 🙂

Gratitude Day 6: Enough Is Enough

Enough Is Enough

                        Enough Is Enough

 

On Day 6 of my Gratitude Project, I think this quote says it all. So I will just leave it at that.

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Gratitude Day 5: All Shall Be Well

Trust The Process

Trust The Process

Gratitude Day 5: Trust The Process

As many of you who follow this blog day to day know, I am currently writing a 9 day Gratitude Project here on Footprints In Ecuador.

It doesn’t really matter where you live in the world. As they say, wherever you are, there you are. The practice and process of Gratitude can be applied wherever you are at any moment and to any given experience.

In my life, Gratitude requires trust in the process of life unfolding exactly as it should, knowing in my heart that my needs truly will be met no matter how it may look at any given moment. I trust that there is a Force of Love moving through the universe that holds me fast and will never ever let me go.

Trust in the process also suggests that we can trust ourselves enough to know that we will always have the strength, courage and faith to make it through whatever challenges that we are going through right now.

As Saint Julian of Norwich (1342-1416)  said, “All shall be well and all shall be well and all manner of thing shall be well.”

I believe this with all my heart and soul. Do you?

All Shall Be Well

All Shall Be Well

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Gratitude Day 3: Grant Us A Heart Wide Open To All This Beauty.

How I like to think of my days here

How I like to think of my days. Period.

In Day 3 of my 9 Days Of Gratitude commitment, I thought I would share something really personal with you. The very first thing I say to myself within the first 17 seconds of waking up is, “Something truly AWESOME is going to happen to me today. Thank You! I am GRATEFUL!”

Whatever We Focus On Expands

Whatever we focus on expands and so I choose to focus on GRATITUDE. I want to focus on creating a heart wide open within myself to all the beauty and joy in the world.What do you focus on when you wake up?

A Thanksgiving Prayer For Every Day

Below is a “Thanksgiving Prayer” written Walter Rauschenbusch that could be repeated any day of the year. I hope you enjoy it.

Thanksgiving Day Prayer

For the wide sky and the blessed sun,

For the salt sea and the running water,

For the everlasting hills

And the never-resting winds,

For trees and the common grass underfoot.

We thank you for our senses

By which we hear the songs of birds,

And see the splendor of the summer fields,

And taste of the autumn fruits,

And rejoice in the feel of the snow,

And smell the breath of the spring.

Grant us a heart wide open to all this beauty.

• Walter Rauschenbusch •

Another thing I am thankful for is my freedom and ability to write about what I think of and see in my travels around the world. My experience in Ecuador has been truly life changing. Want to know more about that? Here ya go:

“Words To Thrive By® for World Travellers: Footprints in Ecuador” http://amzn.to/1KWKVs2 

THE CHRISTMAS PIE

Traditional American Apple Pie

Traditional American Apple Pie

Tonight we are invited to dinner at the home of a native Ecuadorian woman whom I met recently. Her name is Margarita. It will be a Traditional Ecuadorian Christmas Dinner for her family (and us) and it will include her 104 year old mother! I’m really looking forward to learning more about what a Traditional Ecuadorian Christmas Feast is like.

When I asked what I could bring, Margarita said, “Please bring A Traditional American Dessert!” “Well!” I thought to myself, “What could be more of a Traditional American Dessert than An Apple Pie?!”

The funny thing is, (or NOT so funny depending on how you look at it?!), even though I have made this same pie hundreds and HUNdreds of times over the years, this morning when I got up I could NOT, for the LIFE of me, remember the recipe for EITHER my trusty “No Fail Pie Crust” or the ingredients for “The Apple Pie?!”

This morning, when I thought of what else I could possible make, I realized I didn’t have ANY of the ingredients. The grocery store was an hour bus ride, there and back. I reeeeally did not want to face Christmas Eve Shopping Madness in ANY country today.

All I could think of was, “Uh Oh. This dessert if I just make it up is going to be a Culinary Disaster!”

So I sent an urgent SOS to my daughter, Sarah. Fortunately, she found an old email from 2009 when I had sent HER the very same recipes when SHE was away from home! So Thank God she was able to send me both of the recipes I needed today or I would have been totally SUNK.

I’m feeling SO grateful for My Daughter right now! Thank you Sarah! xoxox

Traditional Apple Pie #2

Traditional Apple Pie #2

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CHRISTMAS IN ECUADOR: IT’S A DIFFERENT KIND OF GIFT

Festive Ecuadorian People Made Out Of Marzipan

Festive Ecuadorian People Made Out Of Marzipan

It‘s nearing Christmas day in Ecuador and I’m discovering that “Christmas in The Tropics” is quite different from “Christmas in North America.” To begin with most everyone speaks Spanish and instead of hearing the words, “Merry Christmas!” you hear people wishing each other, “Feliz Navidad!”

For me,  living abroad right now, I find myself feeling a little sad. Most of all I am missing the special time of hanging out with my children at this time of year when they both return home. They are now visiting their Dad in Seattle, Washington where I used to live.

This year, I’m not doing the Christmas traditions I have always done: baking Christmas cookies, making homemade peppermint bark, almond cake and killer eggnog, decorating my Christmas tree, planning my holiday feast, going to Christmas Eve service at my church.

So this year, there were no stressful trips to the mall or staying up late to finish sewing or knitting projects for children or friends. I knew before I left that it would be prohibitively expensive to send gifts  back to my children from here, and so I sent a Christmas box to each of them before I left the U.S. way back in October. (Ecuador doesn’t have a mail or postal service like in the U.S. Everything is sent by private courier or placed on a bus by one person and picked up and paid for by the person receiving the item at the other end.)   Last week, I ordered flowers from Amazon.com for my father, close girlfriends, my children and their dad.  It took fifteen minutes. That was the extent of my holiday shopping.

I now realize, being away from all my normal traditions, that I had not really considered or realized how much pressure and stress it all had been to prepare for!

So where does that leave me now with everything so very different? Well I’m trying to make new traditions for myself and new meaning out of this holiday from here in Ecuador.

Yesterday I was invited to a Christmas Fiesta to raise money for extremely poor and rural children who are being exploited, children who are doing farm work here beginning at age 5 instead of going to school. The leaders of this Child Protection Group: Dignidad Por Los Ninos de Ecuador are trying very hard to raise awareness for their cause, to protect these children by getting them off the farms and into school and also educating their parents as to why this is so important.

As I looked around at the bright faces of these many poor children laughing, clapping and enjoying the clown at the Fiesta, they could have been any happy and joyous children anywhere. Their joy and laughter was also contagious.  I clapped and smiled and sang right along with them.

This Christmas Fiesta also allowed me to learn more about how some of the Ecuadorian Holiday Traditions are celebrated.

A blind teenager got up and sang “Rudolf The Red Nosed Reindeer” in Spanish. When the crowd roared their applause and began chanting, “Otro! Otro! Otro!” (which means “Another!”) he raised his shoulders proudly and burst out into a rendition of the Manabi Anthem, the traditional song of this Ecuadorian Province, like our National Anthem in the U.S.  Everyone around me joined in singing and though I could not translate the words fast enough in my head, their singing with such pride moved me deeply.

I also watched the group leaders of Dignidad valiantly slog through a very very rough version of the play,  “A Christmas Carol.” They called their play, “The Grinch.” The character of the Grinch was played by an older woman who was referred to as “Senora Grinch.” After seeing “A Christmas Carol” so many times done in English in the U.S., seeing a “Senora Grinch” was a first for me.

The play took place outside in a school soccer field. Plastic chairs lined the field and at both ends where the parents, children and invited guests sat. Their very simple costumes were made of colored paper. The Ghosts of Christmas Past, Present and Future were actors covered in a bed sheet. The leaders of Dignidad were trying their very best to teach these very poor children and their parents the important lesson that Christmas was not a matter of how much money you have or how many gifts you gave or received but rather really about the generosity in your heart.

So, while the “Traditional Victorian Christmas” in North America with scenes of snow, lots of holiday decoration lights, roaring fireplaces and all of the more customary focus on consumerism doesn’t exist here, there are other things I am learning. Here in Ecuador, Christmas is more of a Christian Holiday, celebrating the birth of Jesus, and focused more on each person embodying the spirit of love, kindness and generosity.

And even though the extent of my Christmas decorations this year in Ecuador consist of a simple strand of white lights across the balcony which drape over a potted palm tree and a table decoration of red, green and white candle surrounded by festive Ecuadorian figures made out of marzipan, I’m discovering the true gift of Christmas in the generosity of the hearts of the people here.

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